Talk:ColdFusion 8
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Daniel T 10:46, 10 Nov 2006 (PST)
ColdFusion 8 needs better memory management, a native server app [i.e., not running on top of JRun], it needs to be lighter weight [i.e. Heavy use of ColdFusion can bring a server to it's knees]. Long running pages should not crash the server or hold up other requests. Currently, our shop builds in CF and Python because CF can't handle big text files or anything big really. Better integration with Shell, and CMD. Get rid of that stupid PDF crap. Needs to allow open-ended not-restrictive integration with PDF. Follow the open source trend, make it more flexible. My shop is on the verge of moving to PHP because it's more open source friendly, and thusly, small business friendly. PHP is much more extensible. PHP is also much better at memory management and does not run "on top" of something like JRun; in fact as most know, is integrated with the most widely used WWW server, Apache. C'mon guys... open open open... or I'm leaving. I would also like to see native image manipulation tools. You're adobe, I know you can do it. I've told people in my shop that we might want to wait and see what Adobe does with CF before we leave because adobe apps are killer. But we won't wait long. It would be great if there was syntax integration with Photoshop Filters, Illustrator Vectors, and could generate Flash on the fly, rather than having to build separate components and try to make them work together. Take a hint from Apple Final Cut Studio. Very tight integration there as Acura Rdx seat belt as tight. Integration is very abstract in ColdFusion/Flash. Oh, well. Big wish list. Let's see what you got.
User: Grant E March 3 2007 ~~~~
Mappings
BlueDragon implements a <cfmapping> tag which is excellent for deploying applications with no administrator interaction, and kick ass for shared hosting. The tag allows defining CF Mappings right in the code for that specific application.
Would do wonders for making Model-Glue(and other frameworks that use cfcs heavily) based applications simpler to use and deploy.
Elliott
--- Elliot, CF8 now implements this functionality. Not via a CFMAPPING tag, but by way of per application settings that can be set in the application.cfc. (using this.mapping) See a blog entry Ben has done, at [1]
/Charlie
Image Functions
Will the new image functions in Scorpio allow someone to put one large image on the server and Scorpio can then feed any client the appropriately resized and compressed version of it based on scripting which sniffs out each client's screen resolution and bandwidth/speed?
Shawn
CFC documentation
Can you add a hint tag to CFC functions? I know there is a hint attribute but it can get long and very difficult to read in the code. Our group has begun adding html to the hint so that it can be viewed easily in a web browser which makes the hints very large.
The hint tag could be used like this:
<cffunction>
<cffunctionhint>
Function description
</cffunctionhint>
<cfargument />
[function code]
</cffunction>
Flash Forms
--Steve 16:09, 7 Mar 2007 (PST)
Will there be any work done on Flash forms? I have not had time to learn action script, so having the ability to automatically generate a UUID within cfgridupdate would make flash forms more useable. I want to give non-technical staff the ability to update a database. cfgrid seemed awesome until I tried inserting new records. I have also had problems with inserting or updating dates. The first thing on my wishlist would be to see flash forms polished up a little bit.
Coldfusion and MySql
Currently coldfusion is not completely compatible with MySQL. You need to use an old mysql driver to make coldfusion connect to the database without errors. It would be useful if this is improved in the new Scorpio edition.
Smoothing over the compatibility issues will also bring together the Adobe Systems promise to become more Mac friendly. Mac users don't have access to Microsoft Access or SQL Servers. Marrying a database server (MySQL) & server application (ColdFusion) with the creativity of Apple's operating system is imparative. I'm attempting to find a way to use all my applications on my Mac Pro. This would seal the deal!
Show Me the Way With Examples
As ColdFusion grows, so do the number of CF tags/fuctions and their attributes. The literature that accompanies CF doesn't go into a whole lot of detail on how each tag's/functions attributes are used, what values to use, and how/why to use those values.
I have often found myself Googling to search for ways to implement these tags into my code. White Docs are helpful sometimes but aren't enough; nor is the Help:ColdFusion utility in DreamWeaver.
Preferably, I would like to have this information made available with ColdFusion on CD, improve the White Docs, or just improve the Help utilities in development applications (through updaters if necessary) like DreamWeaver.
Keep the information short and sweet, but also offer an elaborate explanation of what the attributes do, what values they require, when/how to use those values, etc. Also, using real life examples would be beneficial. I can (and have) read technical documentation. But how many of us would also like to actually see what it looks like and see it in action?
Finally, please include the recommended syntax. Dreamweaver, for example, can tell you (as you are typing your tags) what to type and its order, but it often leaves out the syntax requirements such as single or double quotation marks. I have found cases where developers often will use quotations marks, but CF documentation will demonstrate the tags usage using apostrophes instead. If it works, it works. But, is it wrong, discouraged, or what? At the very least, this can help once and for all to determine what we should be using.
SSL 3.0 support
Will this release have full support for SSL 3.0?
PHP or CF?
Why is Adobe labs written in PHP? You guys need to push out there the power that CF can bring.
